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Post by Sophia M. on Sept 14, 2021 18:10:36 GMT
I sat through a catechism class that hand motions were used to show how the covenant seed was passed on. It was hysterical, use your imagination. Also was subjected to a conversation of why adopting was unwise because of covenant blood lines . . . . . Hand motions? I hope nothing like the hand motions used in this sermon!!! . . . unfortunately after seeing this clip many years back, I don't have to use my imagination. Covenant seed is transferred through polished shafts, right? This particular Baptist minister later was imprisoned after conviction for taking a teenage girl across state lines to use for personal gratification:
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Post by enlightened on Sept 14, 2021 18:15:37 GMT
I sat through a catechism class that hand motions were used to show how the covenant seed was passed on. It was hysterical, use your imagination. Also was subjected to a conversation of why adopting was unwise because of covenant blood lines . . . . . Hand motions? I hope nothing like the hand motions used in this sermon!!! . . . unfortunately after seeing this clip many years back, I don't have to use my imagination. Covenant seed is transferred through polished shafts, right? This particular Baptist minister later was imprisoned after conviction for taking a teenage girl across state lines to use for personal gratification: What did I just watch! 😳
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Post by prnolonger on Sept 14, 2021 18:18:46 GMT
I sat through a catechism class that hand motions were used to show how the covenant seed was passed on. It was hysterical, use your imagination. Also was subjected to a conversation of why adopting was unwise because of covenant blood lines . . . . . Hand motions? I hope nothing like the hand motions used in this sermon!!! . . . unfortunately after seeing this clip many years back, I don't have to use my imagination. Covenant seed is transferred through polished shafts, right? This particular Baptist minister later was imprisoned after conviction for taking a teenage girl across state lines to use for personal gratification: It's been a minute since I thought about Jack Schaap. Thanks for the laugh. Oh boy now I'm gonna start down the Jack Hyles rabbit hole again.
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Post by ExPRisoner on Sept 14, 2021 19:23:07 GMT
I sat through a catechism class that hand motions were used to show how the covenant seed was passed on. It was hysterical, use your imagination. Also was subjected to a conversation of why adopting was unwise because of covenant blood lines . . . . . Hand motions? I hope nothing like the hand motions used in this sermon!!! . . . unfortunately after seeing this clip many years back, I don't have to use my imagination. Covenant seed is transferred through polished shafts, right? This particular Baptist minister later was imprisoned after conviction for taking a teenage girl across state lines to use for personal gratification: Oh Boy! I cannot unsee that. Another KJV only Church that's the early warning sign to run!
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Post by questioneverything on Sept 14, 2021 19:39:20 GMT
I sat through a catechism class that hand motions were used to show how the covenant seed was passed on. It was hysterical, use your imagination. Also was subjected to a conversation of why adopting was unwise because of covenant blood lines . . . . . Hand motions? I hope nothing like the hand motions used in this sermon!!! . . . unfortunately after seeing this clip many years back, I don't have to use my imagination. Covenant seed is transferred through polished shafts, right? This particular Baptist minister later was imprisoned after conviction for taking a teenage girl across state lines to use for personal gratification:
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Post by fellowhuman on Sept 14, 2021 20:01:08 GMT
I sat through a catechism class that hand motions were used to show how the covenant seed was passed on. It was hysterical, use your imagination. Also was subjected to a conversation of why adopting was unwise because of covenant blood lines . . . . . Hand motions? I hope nothing like the hand motions used in this sermon!!! . . . unfortunately after seeing this clip many years back, I don't have to use my imagination. Covenant seed is transferred through polished shafts, right? This particular Baptist minister later was imprisoned after conviction for taking a teenage girl across state lines to use for personal gratification: The guys behind him! Hahaha, they can't believe it either but they don't want to make it even more of a scene! I watched it audio-less so I may have missed something.
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Post by questioneverything on Sept 14, 2021 20:02:22 GMT
Hand motions? I hope nothing like the hand motions used in this sermon!!! . . . unfortunately after seeing this clip many years back, I don't have to use my imagination. Covenant seed is transferred through polished shafts, right? This particular Baptist minister later was imprisoned after conviction for taking a teenage girl across state lines to use for personal gratification: It's been a minute since I thought about Jack Schaap. Thanks for the laugh. Oh boy now I'm gonna start down the Jack Hyles rabbit hole again. Wake me up when it's over.
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Post by questioneverything on Sept 14, 2021 20:03:35 GMT
Hand motions? I hope nothing like the hand motions used in this sermon!!! . . . unfortunately after seeing this clip many years back, I don't have to use my imagination. Covenant seed is transferred through polished shafts, right? This particular Baptist minister later was imprisoned after conviction for taking a teenage girl across state lines to use for personal gratification: The guys behind him! Hahaha, they can't believe it either but they don't want to make it even more of a scene! I watched it audio-less so I may have missed something. You miss a lot without the audio.
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Post by fellowhuman on Sept 14, 2021 20:10:59 GMT
Oh no. I heard it now.
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Post by qwerty on Sept 15, 2021 12:11:51 GMT
What is the reasoning you have heard for this? Something about “covenant seed?” Yes. An adopted child is not from the covenant seed. We aren't God so we don't know but adoption is not a great option in the PRCA, better to stay childless and find your calling in that. A sad church. When my wife and I made the announcement to our PR family that we were adopting, one of the first comments was, “I hope the child is in the covenant.” What a stupid thing to say.
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Post by questioneverything on Sept 15, 2021 12:18:47 GMT
Yes. An adopted child is not from the covenant seed. We aren't God so we don't know but adoption is not a great option in the PRCA, better to stay childless and find your calling in that. A sad church. When my wife and I made the announcement to our PR family that we were adopting, one of the first comments was, “I hope the child is in the covenant.” What a stupid thing to say. ...and cruel.
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Post by searching4truth on Sept 15, 2021 12:43:21 GMT
Wow. Just wow….
On that note, I would like to hear from someone who is a transracial adoptee that grew up in the prc. What their experience was like growing up surrounded by mainly white Dutch kids in both church and school, etc..
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Post by cannalily on Sept 15, 2021 13:21:12 GMT
Wow. Just wow…. On that note, I would like to hear from someone who is a transracial adoptee that grew up in the prc. What their experience was like growing up surrounded by mainly white Dutch kids in both church and school, etc.. That's probably going to be really hard to find. My guess is that they don't last in this organization very long, but what do I know.
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Post by throwaway2018 on Sept 15, 2021 13:49:18 GMT
Yes. An adopted child is not from the covenant seed. We aren't God so we don't know but adoption is not a great option in the PRCA, better to stay childless and find your calling in that. A sad church. When my wife and I made the announcement to our PR family that we were adopting, one of the first comments was, “I hope the child is in the covenant.” What a stupid thing to say. Nothing like showing what a piece of shit you are by talking about how God might send your kid to hell for no reason. What kind of person thinks this is a reasonable conversation topic, and thinks that a just, loving God would do such a thing? I'm sorry you had to go through that, and I hope your extended family has started to behave better towards you and your family.
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Post by Sophia M. on Sept 15, 2021 14:30:39 GMT
The guys behind him! Hahaha, they can't believe it either but they don't want to make it even more of a scene! I watched it audio-less so I may have missed something. The guys behind him are the most scary thing. These guys are who all the youth attendees to this outrageous speech are looking at as they think, " is the pulpit person ok? I don't feel like it as I sit here listening to this youth group presentation, but the preacher's peers/supervisors/assistants whatever would take care of him or of us if he wasn't ok. Right? Right?" When I was a young adult of college age, I chaperoned a PR youth convention. Jack Lenting presented a lecture on "the Christian and the workplace" and his lecture was so out of line. He said one of the bad things about having to be in the corporate world when you work is that worldly businesses allow women to work, which takes jobs from men, which is one of the reasons it is hard to find good jobs. And worse, he went on, they allow women to be bosses of men, so that you may have to disobey God by serving under a woman's authority in your workplace. Ask me how many adult male leaders of the church, including ministers, were sitting up or near the front during that lecture. Did any get up, stop the speech, or escort this guy from the lectern? No, they sat quietly, gave their tacit approval. I was shocked and appalled, and I had been listening to PR sermons for a few decades at that point. Just awfulness. This is how it goes . . the peers of the exploiters and abusers don't absorb any urgency or obligation to interrupt this stuff even when it happens in their very presence, in front of their own eyes. The people in charge of a circus like this aren't leading, just going with the flow of pretending the emperor's clothes are magnificent, when the emperor is exposing everything about his psychosexual condition to everybody.
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