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Post by healing on Oct 29, 2022 17:55:16 GMT
I was trying to find the right thread to put this on. But one of the only arguments that was said against me leaving was that I was breaking the confession of faith I made when I was younger. This is because "when I made it I promised to adhere to the doctrines of the church". Now that I am going to a church with a different belief on a lot of these main doctrines I have "broken my confession of faith". This obviously hurts because I am Christian and still hold fast to my confession of faith. I wonder if this has been said to/used against anyone else? Yes. This was said to me also. “We saw you make profession of faith and now it seems that you’re turning your back on that” That was the point when I did break down and cry. So painful to have that said to your face when daily believing this is hard already given all of the PR programming. I was following Gods leading and I had people I had respected as spiritual leaders saying I was abandoning my faith…so confusing. My profession of faith is was a profession of faith in Jesus’ saving grace for me. It was not to forever remain “married” to a particular denomination. There won’t be someone standing at the pearly gates looking for the PRC stamp of approval.
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Post by blindrealist on Oct 29, 2022 22:48:09 GMT
I was trying to find the right thread to put this on. But one of the only arguments that was said against me leaving was that I was breaking the confession of faith I made when I was younger. This is because "when I made it I promised to adhere to the doctrines of the church". Now that I am going to a church with a different belief on a lot of these main doctrines I have "broken my confession of faith". This obviously hurts because I am Christian and still hold fast to my confession of faith. I wonder if this has been said to/used against anyone else? Yes. This was said to me also. “We saw you make profession of faith and now it seems that you’re turning your back on that” That was the point when I did break down and cry. So painful to have that said to your face when daily believing this is hard already given all of the PR programming. I was following Gods leading and I had people I had respected as spiritual leaders saying I was abandoning my faith…so confusing. My profession of faith is was a profession of faith in Jesus’ saving grace for me. It was not to forever remain “married” to a particular denomination. There won’t be someone standing at the pearly gates looking for the PRC stamp of approval. Try: "I'm leaving in order to remain faithful to my profession of faith because you're not faithful."
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Post by healing on Oct 30, 2022 0:38:18 GMT
Yes. This was said to me also. “We saw you make profession of faith and now it seems that you’re turning your back on that” That was the point when I did break down and cry. So painful to have that said to your face when daily believing this is hard already given all of the PR programming. I was following Gods leading and I had people I had respected as spiritual leaders saying I was abandoning my faith…so confusing. My profession of faith is was a profession of faith in Jesus’ saving grace for me. It was not to forever remain “married” to a particular denomination. There won’t be someone standing at the pearly gates looking for the PRC stamp of approval. Try: "I'm leaving in order to remain faithful to my profession of faith because you're not faithful." Truth! That’s it exactly. I would not attempt to engage them like but yes, that’s what it was about. Although at the time we left I don’t think I had a good handle on it all like I do now!
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Post by Andatlastiseethelight on Oct 30, 2022 1:17:55 GMT
I was trying to find the right thread to put this on. But one of the only arguments that was said against me leaving was that I was breaking the confession of faith I made when I was younger. This is because "when I made it I promised to adhere to the doctrines of the church". Now that I am going to a church with a different belief on a lot of these main doctrines I have "broken my confession of faith". This obviously hurts because I am Christian and still hold fast to my confession of faith. I wonder if this has been said to/used against anyone else? Yes. This was said to me also. “We saw you make profession of faith and now it seems that you’re turning your back on that” That was the point when I did break down and cry. So painful to have that said to your face when daily believing this is hard already given all of the PR programming. I was following Gods leading and I had people I had respected as spiritual leaders saying I was abandoning my faith…so confusing. My profession of faith is was a profession of faith in Jesus’ saving grace for me. It was not to forever remain “married” to a particular denomination. There won’t be someone standing at the pearly gates looking for the PRC stamp of approval. It’s a direct threat to their control. The confessions are wielded around like a sword, as well as confession TO THE TRUTH instead of to Christ. It’s a grasp at control, and manipulation to the status quo.
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Post by Whisper on Oct 30, 2022 1:20:47 GMT
Yes. This was said to me also. “We saw you make profession of faith and now it seems that you’re turning your back on that” That was the point when I did break down and cry. So painful to have that said to your face when daily believing this is hard already given all of the PR programming. I was following Gods leading and I had people I had respected as spiritual leaders saying I was abandoning my faith…so confusing. My profession of faith is was a profession of faith in Jesus’ saving grace for me. It was not to forever remain “married” to a particular denomination. There won’t be someone standing at the pearly gates looking for the PRC stamp of approval. It’s a direct threat to their control. The confessions are wielded around like a sword, as well as confession TO THE TRUTH instead of to Christ. It’s a grasp at control, and manipulation to the status quo. Yep that argument was used on me too. Several years later I see what a pile of shit they were trying to bury me under.
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Post by healing on Oct 31, 2022 0:45:50 GMT
My vent: I am a straight man, who enjoys cooking and baking. I would regularly prepare food items for church events, and at times, entire meals for church fundraising dinners (young peoples, etc.) I happened to also be living with a male roommate. I would always be given the side eye at church. But chalked it all up to my being very introverted and socially anxious. The final straw came when someone told me to my face that I would make someone a good wife someday. WTF kind of messed up person would say that to someone? I straight up stormed out of the building, swearing I would never cook anything for any PR church event, and as I departed, said loud enough for everyone to hear that I hope they enjoyed their meal, because it's the last thing I'd ever make for the church. I left the PR soon after and found another church where I was accepted for who I am, and am married to the best wife a man could wish for. This event still regularly comes to mind to torment me though. 🙄 this is completely ludicrous. It shows how stuck they are in some sort of weird 1950’s gender role culture. Feels like malicious ignorance. You were sharing out of the generosity of your heart! I love to cook too and for people who love to cook, doing so is a vulnerable gesture of care and love. Jesus turned water into wine and he was a male. He loved eating around a table. (And frankly, I think He likes a good party too! We’ve got a good one coming! 😊) There’s no evidence written of it, but I’d be really surprised if he wasn’t involved in food prep some way too. If he washed feet, I imagine him doing menial tasks like helping in the kitchen too. I have no doubt that your gift of cooking is God given and I hope you get to delight in expressing that gift fully to those around you. I have no doubt it is a blessing to many! I hope you can let go of what this small minded person said because it’s 💯 garbage.
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Post by igottalightup on Oct 31, 2022 2:37:45 GMT
My vent: I am a straight man, who enjoys cooking and baking. I would regularly prepare food items for church events, and at times, entire meals for church fundraising dinners (young peoples, etc.) I happened to also be living with a male roommate. I would always be given the side eye at church. But chalked it all up to my being very introverted and socially anxious. The final straw came when someone told me to my face that I would make someone a good wife someday. WTF kind of messed up person would say that to someone? I straight up stormed out of the building, swearing I would never cook anything for any PR church event, and as I departed, said loud enough for everyone to hear that I hope they enjoyed their meal, because it's the last thing I'd ever make for the church. I left the PR soon after and found another church where I was accepted for who I am, and am married to the best wife a man could wish for. This event still regularly comes to mind to torment me though. 🙄 this is completely ludicrous. It shows how stuck they are in some sort of weird 1950’s gender role culture. Feels like malicious ignorance. You were sharing out of the generosity of your heart! I love to cook too and for people who love to cook, doing so is a vulnerable gesture of care and love. Jesus turned water into wine and he was a male. He loved eating around a table. (And frankly, I think He likes a good party too! We’ve got a good one coming! 😊) There’s no evidence written of it, but I’d be really surprised if he wasn’t involved in food prep some way too. If he washed feet, I imagine him doing menial tasks like helping in the kitchen too. I have no doubt that your gift of cooking is God given and I hope you get to delight in expressing that gift fully to those around you. I have no doubt it is a blessing to many! I hope you can let go of what this small minded person said because it’s 💯 garbage. cooking is amazing! I hope that as time goes by you give less and less power to how those people treated you. That is awful and I'm sorry. I'll bet you make a great husband!
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