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Post by freefromprc on Apr 4, 2015 2:52:30 GMT
I think the phrase "17 years in recovery" used in context as being someone recovering from being PR is so well said. This discription honors the"relapse potential" inherently part of this journey of recovery. It is such a slow recovery, renewal and a restoration process. I felt Annelm wrote so healingly and exhibits a beautiful language that is life giving and shows patience concerning others who currently still suffer from this belief system that hurts so many souls. Thank you Annelm. Relapse potential. Right. People leave and jump right into a similar church situation. There is a certain comfort in being carried along in a group even if it is fantasy. Enjoying a common vision even if it is false. It's lonely being an island, and that's exactly what the early stages feel like after you detach. Everyone you associated with is no longer supportive. You look around and realize you have no other social group, and you actually are completely alone. You have been so self absorbed in serving this organization, and your mind is so warped, you struggle to understand your own relationship with God. So yes, relapse into another similar mess is an easy thing to fall into.
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Post by seeker on Apr 15, 2015 23:51:03 GMT
You write '17 years in recovery'. Wow...it is a lifetime. People who have not been in it do not understand. People still in it will not admit it. Thanks, it is a very helpful post. Some of us are given such minor roles in our own lives. We can't create our own destinies, they are created for us. For me, each step took a couple years (and it's not yet completed). It is definitely a journey, mostly mental since we are never allowed to speak, let alone do. I wish I would have taken the advice of a friend five years ago, "just leave!" Waiting adds to the regrets. Regrets cause pain. Your friend gave you excellent advice. The longer you stay the harder it is to leave. Life is short, do not waste it living that awful life.
~your other friend~
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Post by KristianWrights on Apr 17, 2015 22:37:24 GMT
Last night I spent two hours talking to a pr who mailed in his request for papers.... All worried about getting his papers or not and what to say....ahhh I slept like a baby last night knowing another one is saved from the cult
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Post by rachel1 on Apr 18, 2015 3:46:44 GMT
Last night I spent two hours talking to a pr who mailed in his request for papers.... All worried about getting his papers or not and what to say....ahhh I slept like a baby last night knowing another one is saved from the cult What a shame. Do you even realize what you are doing and saying here? Is the Holy Spirit in your hearts? Cleansing? To say that a true church is a cult...? Oh, how satan works in the heart of unbelievers to say such wickedness
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Post by rachel1 on Apr 18, 2015 5:14:41 GMT
What a shame. Do you even realize what you are doing and saying here? Is the Holy Spirit in your hearts? Cleansing? To say that a true church is a cult...? Oh, how satan works in the heart of unbelievers to say such wickedness Who are you shaming? Whose wickedness? True church? Satan? Unbelievers? Do you speak like that in public? Absolutely I speak like this in public. I'm not ashamed.
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Post by freefromprc on Apr 18, 2015 14:55:45 GMT
Last night I spent two hours talking to a pr who mailed in his request for papers.... All worried about getting his papers or not and what to say....ahhh I slept like a baby last night knowing another one is saved from the cult What a shame. Do you even realize what you are doing and saying here? Is the Holy Spirit in your hearts? Cleansing? To say that a true church is a cult...? Oh, how satan works in the heart of unbelievers to say such wickedness The prc has all the marks of a false church by your own Belgic Confession definition.
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Post by Skyfall on Apr 18, 2015 23:18:07 GMT
Who are you shaming? Whose wickedness? True church? Satan? Unbelievers? Do you speak like that in public? Absolutely I speak like this in public. I'm not ashamed. Public. As in the church parking lot.
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Post by rachel1 on Apr 18, 2015 23:54:28 GMT
Absolutely I speak like this in public. I'm not ashamed. Public. As in the church parking lot. No. Not in the parking lot. If I were ever to be face to face with ANYONE who called my church a cult I would call them out.
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Post by Joacom on Apr 19, 2015 1:17:08 GMT
Public. As in the church parking lot. No. Not in the parking lot. If I were ever to be face to face with ANYONE who called my church a cult I would call them out. Rachel1, you are really trapped , keep showing us the Pr occultism side of you.
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Post by cannalily on Apr 20, 2015 4:27:40 GMT
Public. As in the church parking lot. No. Not in the parking lot. If I were ever to be face to face with ANYONE who called my church a cult I would call them out. I'm not sure I believe that. You simply don't have any tools outside of your little world.
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Post by freefromprc on Apr 20, 2015 21:22:26 GMT
Public. As in the church parking lot. No. Not in the parking lot. If I were ever to be face to face with ANYONE who called my church a cult I would call them out. I had Jehovah Witnesses bang on my door today. They put the PRC to shame with their evangelism. You are wrong rachel1. You are comfortable only in your own circles. When is the last time you discussed your beliefs outside of your church circle? Your neighbor next door doesn't count, they already get that you are one of them, and family who are not PRC do not count - they too know how bad your wheels are spinning. If you stop and think about it honestly, you will know that this forum is plucking at your conscience. We have all been there. The PRC will tell you you are free. You know you are shackled. the first step is acknowledging it.
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Post by KristianWrights on May 2, 2015 21:59:28 GMT
Last night I spent two hours talking to a pr who mailed in his request for papers.... All worried about getting his papers or not and what to say....ahhh I slept like a baby last night knowing another one is saved from the cult Bam!!!! His Pr parents just told them they are going to disown him because be has a girlfriend and left the pr church. Wow another pr parebt disowning the child they gave birth to.... Didn't know so many pr parents give their Children up for adoption.
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Post by freefromprc on May 2, 2015 22:40:37 GMT
Last night I spent two hours talking to a pr who mailed in his request for papers.... All worried about getting his papers or not and what to say....ahhh I slept like a baby last night knowing another one is saved from the cult Bam!!!! His Pr parents just told them they are going to disown him because be has a girlfriend and left the pr church. Wow another pr parebt disowning the child they gave birth to.... Didn't know so many pr parents give their Children up for adoption. Nothing new of course. Thus is the pr way. Those who come on here and deny it are either dishonest or blind.
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Post by cannalily on May 3, 2015 12:36:20 GMT
Bam!!!! His Pr parents just told them they are going to disown him because be has a girlfriend and left the pr church. Wow another pr parebt disowning the child they gave birth to.... Didn't know so many pr parents give their Children up for adoption. Nothing new of course. Thus is the pr way. Those who come on here and deny it are either dishonest or blind.Or perhaps ignorant. If you've been limited in your knowledge, both in a christian school, at home, or home-schooled, how much information can you possibly know? But that's the game, right? Limit one's exposure. College for example is a great evil. Send a kid outside of dordt, or calvin college, and that kid rarely comes back. The information on this forum is quite possibly ground breaking material for some in this cult. This will be the first time anyone has ever spoken badly about the PRC and has not be reprimanded by a silly man called an "elder".
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Post by seeker on May 3, 2015 15:49:47 GMT
Hi I do not feel spiritually feed by the PR church and in the past I have felt like I was spiritually dying there because I was getting so confused about the Bible and what being Christian is all about. There are just so many contradictions and twisting of Scripture and picking and choosing Scripture, at least I think so anyways (or am I just the one misinterpreting scripture? haha can you tell I am confused?)...But I am afraid to leave the PR church because what if I go somewhere else and I still feel like I am spiritually dying, then that means there is something wrong with me and not just the church I go to. You will not feel spiritually fed. The prc is a dead church. If you would like to learn reformed history, and the prc version of dogma, it's a great place to stay.
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