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Post by midwestchristian on May 7, 2016 14:49:32 GMT
So many of us have ongoing pain and sorrow as a result of the PRC. You seem to have managed those emotions and have written a meaningful helpful post. Thanks for that! This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. You sound like my father-in-law...angry, incoherent, throwing around PR buzzwords and phrases, making ominous predictions about my future outside "the truth". I am thankful to the Lord to have freed myself from this kind of Christianity.
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May 8, 2016 11:38:22 GMT
Post by Admin on May 8, 2016 11:38:22 GMT
Hi dustinbla, thanks for posting! (better late than never)
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Post by freefromprc on May 8, 2016 14:08:39 GMT
So many of us have ongoing pain and sorrow as a result of the PRC. You seem to have managed those emotions and have written a meaningful helpful post. Thanks for that! This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. Are you completely blind? These are your words: Horrid site. Slanderers. Not helpful. Dark path. Guilty conscience. Terrifying.........listen to yourself. You are using the same bullying belittling scare tactics that we have all been trained in by the prc. If you actually read anything here, you would find that most who come here have found relief and a group of supporters who have had the same horrific treatment in the PRC cult, and most have family still in that organization. Do your due diligence and bring what you find here to your leaders, get the mess cleaned up, and report back with your results. It doesn't surprise me to read the first few sentences you write are simply judgment after judgment after judgment without an ounce of acknowledgement of the terrible treatment your group has made and continues to make against non members. Reading what you wrote clarifies why I left even more.
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Post by KristianWrights on May 8, 2016 17:07:28 GMT
So many of us have ongoing pain and sorrow as a result of the PRC. You seem to have managed those emotions and have written a meaningful helpful post. Thanks for that! This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. Read what you just wrote... Where is Gods love in your life? You think saten loves this site. Saten loves your church also because it's full of people who hate other people. Saten loves your church cause your church teaches therebis not grace and no forgiveness. Saten loves your church because your church teaches to turn its back on family's. Just remember adding - dancing is a sin - movies are a sin - you can't sent your kids to a public school is a sin - and he list goes on.... Who's adding rules to the bible? Look hard look deep before you go on....
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Post by cannalily on May 9, 2016 1:59:52 GMT
So many of us have ongoing pain and sorrow as a result of the PRC. You seem to have managed those emotions and have written a meaningful helpful post. Thanks for that! This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. I'm going to say that the other members here have covered your pathetic quote pretty well. I'll just add that what's most likely terrifying is that you get to waste your life as you see these other people's freedom. That is true terror. If anything, you might want to dwell on that fact. YOU are wasting your own TIME. Oh, and I'll also say that you'll most likely never return here, but will become yet another lurker because you've got nothing. You've spent all of your energy in a nice hateful post - which is kind of funny since the only terms you can throw out are labels given to you for your disposal from your cult leaders. Congratulations! You've passed your cult test with flying colors. Now go back to church, eating candy, twice on Sunday, and every holiday the cult, er, church seems fit to impose on your TIME. At least now you've got something to think about during that long prayer about nothing twice on Sundays.
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Post by crusader on May 9, 2016 14:39:44 GMT
So many of us have ongoing pain and sorrow as a result of the PRC. You seem to have managed those emotions and have written a meaningful helpful post. Thanks for that! This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. dustinbla, I believe i am in a cult. I am trapped here. At least I am not fooled and I know what i am involved in now. I know if I leave I will lose all of my family and will be an outcast, so I am choosing to stay for this reason only. I am surrounded by people like you, yet I cannot speak what I truly believe because I know i will be completely shut out. I suspect you know this as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 16:23:09 GMT
This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. dustinbla, I believe i am in a cult. I am trapped here. At least I am not fooled and I know what i am involved in now. I know if I leave I will lose all of my family and will be an outcast, so I am choosing to stay for this reason only. I am surrounded by people like you, yet I cannot speak what I truly believe because I know i will be completely shut out. I suspect you know this as well. I'm so sorry about this, Crusader. I think, dustinbla, that you find this site so horrid because people are expressing different ideas, questions, doubts, and beliefs from the prca, and yes, expressing anger as well. I think the fact that not all of the members are on the same page and maybe even disagree with each other, let alone the prca, but still maintain respect for and dialogue with each other is quite foreign to you, and therefore scares you. Many here hold to much of the doctrine and theology taught by the prca, but refuse to let their light shine in the dim, cold, sallow way too often presented in the prca denomination, so they have left for like minded congregations only to be ridiculed and shunned by the prca for this decision. Others have gone in much different directions with the same results from the prca members. Your statement is another example of the arrogance consistently shown by the prca. Your certainty has boxed you in...boxed God in. There are more protestant denominations in this world than there are prca members alone, how is it the prca has nailed it? I think many people on this site are learning to trust God within a 500 year old man-made belief system they know is just that, man made and subject to error. They are learning to leave their pride at the door and trust God. Meanwhile, the prca have put all their eggs in this one old, smug, single-minded basket; now as much mutated and seeped in the prejudices and isolation of a paranoid Dutch American cultural subset as in anything else. That is terrifying.
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Post by seeker on May 9, 2016 16:49:11 GMT
dustinbla, I believe i am in a cult. I am trapped here. At least I am not fooled and I know what i am involved in now. I know if I leave I will lose all of my family and will be an outcast, so I am choosing to stay for this reason only. I am surrounded by people like you, yet I cannot speak what I truly believe because I know i will be completely shut out. I suspect you know this as well. I'm so sorry about this, Crusader. I think, dustinbla, that you find this site so horrid because people are expressing different ideas, questions, doubts, and beliefs from the prca, and yes, expressing anger as well. I think the fact that not all of the members are on the same page and maybe even disagree with each other, let alone the prca, but still maintain respect for and dialogue with each other is quite foreign to you, and therefore scares you. Many here hold to much of the doctrine and theology taught by the prca, but refuse to let their light shine in the dim, cold, sallow way too often presented in the prca denomination, so they have left for like minded congregations only to be ridiculed and shunned by the prca for this decision. Others have gone in much different directions with the same results from the prca members. Your statement is another example of the arrogance consistently shown by the prca. Your certainty has boxed you in...boxed God in. There are more protestant denominations in this world than there are prca members alone, how is it the prca has nailed it? I think many people on this site are learning to trust God within a 500 year old man-made belief system they know is just that, man made and subject to error. They are learning to leave their pride at the door and trust God. Meanwhile, the prca have put all their eggs in this one old, smug, single-minded basket; now as much mutated and seeped in the prejudices and isolation of a paranoid Dutch American cultural subset as in anything else. That is terrifying. You said "how is it the prca has nailed it?" Exactly! Your last two sentences say it like it is.
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May 9, 2016 16:50:15 GMT
Post by seeker on May 9, 2016 16:50:15 GMT
So many of us have ongoing pain and sorrow as a result of the PRC. You seem to have managed those emotions and have written a meaningful helpful post. Thanks for that! This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. You ask, "Why did you venture into this horrid site?" I am wondering why YOU did!
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Post by freefromprc on May 9, 2016 16:54:52 GMT
This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. I'm going to say that the other members here have covered your pathetic quote pretty well. I'll just add that what's most likely terrifying is that you get to waste your life as you see these other people's freedom. That is true terror. If anything, you might want to dwell on that fact. YOU are wasting your own TIME. Oh, and I'll also say that you'll most likely never return here, but will become yet another lurker because you've got nothing. You've spent all of your energy in a nice hateful post - which is kind of funny since the only terms you can throw out are labels given to you for your disposal from your cult leaders. Congratulations! You've passed your cult test with flying colors. Now go back to church, eating candy, twice on Sunday, and every holiday the cult, er, church seems fit to impose on your TIME. At least now you've got something to think about during that long prayer about nothing twice on Sundays. I underlined an interesting point you made. I find it odd that PRC supporters will not engage. I suspect that it is because when bullies are stood up to they fold. Its easy to preach to the choir, I also find the PRC theology creates spiritual laziness, engaging anything here requires thought and work.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 12:58:22 GMT
So many of us have ongoing pain and sorrow as a result of the PRC. You seem to have managed those emotions and have written a meaningful helpful post. Thanks for that! This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. Here is a quote that also succinctly explains much about the prca and very simply states what I was getting at in my previous post. It is from Oswald Chambers - "My Untmost for His Highest" April 29: "When we become simply a promoter or a defender of a particular belief, something within us dies. That is not believing God– it is only believing our belief about Him."Something within the prca has died.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 19:36:53 GMT
This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. Here is a quote that also succinctly explains much about the prca and very simply states what I was getting at in my previous post. It is from Oswald Chambers - "My Untmost for His Highest" April 29: "When we become simply a promoter or a defender of a particular belief, something within us dies. That is not believing God– it is only believing our belief about Him."Something within the prca has died. ..a couple of sentences later in the reading of Chambers: "If our certainty is only in our beliefs, we develop a sense of self-righteousness, become overly critical, and are limited by the view that our beliefs are complete and settled." It's as if he is writing specifically about the prca.
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Post by freefromprc on May 11, 2016 14:00:34 GMT
Here is a quote that also succinctly explains much about the prca and very simply states what I was getting at in my previous post. It is from Oswald Chambers - "My Untmost for His Highest" April 29: "When we become simply a promoter or a defender of a particular belief, something within us dies. That is not believing God– it is only believing our belief about Him."Something within the prca has died. ..a couple of sentences later in the reading of Chambers: "If our certainty is only in our beliefs, we develop a sense of self-righteousness, become overly critical, and are limited by the view that our beliefs are complete and settled." It's as if he is writing specifically about the prca. Its so clear once you are free from it
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May 11, 2016 23:58:32 GMT
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Post by potato on May 11, 2016 23:58:32 GMT
This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. dustinbla, I believe i am in a cult. I am trapped here. At least I am not fooled and I know what i am involved in now. I know if I leave I will lose all of my family and will be an outcast, so I am choosing to stay for this reason only. I am surrounded by people like you, yet I cannot speak what I truly believe because I know i will be completely shut out. I suspect you know this as well. Sorry that you are trapped. It's rough when you first go but worth it, life is fleeting live yours while you still have it. I can respect a desire to stay for loved ones. Hope you can still get a breath of fresh air and sunshine while the weeds in the PR church try to choke out your life.
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May 12, 2016 16:49:27 GMT
Post by crusader on May 12, 2016 16:49:27 GMT
dustinbla, I believe i am in a cult. I am trapped here. At least I am not fooled and I know what i am involved in now. I know if I leave I will lose all of my family and will be an outcast, so I am choosing to stay for this reason only. I am surrounded by people like you, yet I cannot speak what I truly believe because I know i will be completely shut out. I suspect you know this as well. Sorry that you are trapped. It's rough when you first go but worth it, life is fleeting live yours while you still have it. I can respect a desire to stay for loved ones. Hope you can still get a breath of fresh air and sunshine while the weeds in the PR church try to choke out your life. Its good to know there are others out there who feel the same.
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