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Post by KristianWrights on May 15, 2016 17:26:48 GMT
This makes me so sad. Why did you venture into this horrid site? Slanderers. Not helpful at all. They do not believe in the creation as God sets forth in scripture. Divorce AND remarriage is okay. This is the dark path..... They try and say the PRC is a cult. To us...? It's called a guilty conscience. God judges. Not the ex prcs. Ohhhh, satan loves this site. Just remember, anyone who adds or takes away from Gods word will answer. That is terrifying. dustinbla, I believe i am in a cult. I am trapped here. At least I am not fooled and I know what i am involved in now. I know if I leave I will lose all of my family and will be an outcast, so I am choosing to stay for this reason only. I am surrounded by people like you, yet I cannot speak what I truly believe because I know i will be completely shut out. I suspect you know this as well. Crusader - what would you need to do to leave. I'm willing to do anything to help. Your soul will be sufficated and will die there. Happiness does exist
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Post by midwestchristian on May 17, 2016 1:53:57 GMT
dustinbla, I believe i am in a cult. I am trapped here. At least I am not fooled and I know what i am involved in now. I know if I leave I will lose all of my family and will be an outcast, so I am choosing to stay for this reason only. I am surrounded by people like you, yet I cannot speak what I truly believe because I know i will be completely shut out. I suspect you know this as well. Crusader - what would you need to do to leave. I'm willing to do anything to help. Your soul will be sufficated and will die there. Happiness does exist I like this post a lot. My wife and I actually had it easier than many when we left the PRC in that my family was not and is not PR, so the relationship with them was and is very good. I also took a job out of the area, so we were able to really make a fresh start, meet new people, and find a new church home with good people who simply love us for who we are. I know of people in the PRC who would like to leave and have whispered as much to me. However, both sides of their family are in the denomination. They work in PR businesses who do a lot of business with other PR folks. And they have kids in the PR schools. In this situation, it takes an amazingly bold leap of faith to get out.
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Post by KristianWrights on May 20, 2016 23:00:50 GMT
Crusader - what would you need to do to leave. I'm willing to do anything to help. Your soul will be sufficated and will die there. Happiness does exist I like this post a lot. My wife and I actually had it easier than many when we left the PRC in that my family was not and is not PR, so the relationship with them was and is very good. I also took a job out of the area, so we were able to really make a fresh start, meet new people, and find a new church home with good people who simply love us for who we are. I know of people in the PRC who would like to leave and have whispered as much to me. However, both sides of their family are in the denomination. They work in PR businesses who do a lot of business with other PR folks. And they have kids in the PR schools. In this situation, it takes an amazingly bold leap of faith to get out. I too would have ran from this area and moved out of town. But because of my children and divorce I'm not able to. But on the off weeks I go to another town to escape it all.... Once again yesterday someone who used to be neighbors to my parent in laws said "I just can't believe they are so un Christian to disown their child we are just one religion away from theirs" and I said no they are a cult and we are not that's the difference. For someone to be able to wash their hands of their children and basically look at them as dead in their eyes and for sisters and brothers to wash their hands and pretend their family don't exist for a "CHURCH" because a "CHURCH" told them to do so...... Well that's a cult no ifs ands and buts.
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Post by freefromprc on May 23, 2016 10:48:26 GMT
I like this post a lot. My wife and I actually had it easier than many when we left the PRC in that my family was not and is not PR, so the relationship with them was and is very good. I also took a job out of the area, so we were able to really make a fresh start, meet new people, and find a new church home with good people who simply love us for who we are. I know of people in the PRC who would like to leave and have whispered as much to me. However, both sides of their family are in the denomination. They work in PR businesses who do a lot of business with other PR folks. And they have kids in the PR schools. In this situation, it takes an amazingly bold leap of faith to get out. I too would have ran from this area and moved out of town. But because of my children and divorce I'm not able to. But on the off weeks I go to another town to escape it all.... Once again yesterday someone who used to be neighbors to my parent in laws said "I just can't believe they are so un Christian to disown their child we are just one religion away from theirs" and I said no they are a cult and we are not that's the difference. For someone to be able to wash their hands of their children and basically look at them as dead in their eyes and for sisters and brothers to wash their hands and pretend their family don't exist for a "CHURCH" because a "CHURCH" told them to do so...... Well that's a cult no ifs ands and buts. The defense of the prc is that they do not fit the definition of a cult. It is sad that I actually believed what they said about cults for so long
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May 26, 2016 1:40:56 GMT
Post by KristianWrights on May 26, 2016 1:40:56 GMT
Sorry that you are trapped. It's rough when you first go but worth it, life is fleeting live yours while you still have it. I can respect a desire to stay for loved ones. Hope you can still get a breath of fresh air and sunshine while the weeds in the PR church try to choke out your life. Its good to know there are others out there who feel the same. HELLO STILL WILLING TO HELP YOU LEAVE THE CULT!!!!! RUN RUN RUN
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Post by crusader on May 30, 2016 17:09:26 GMT
Its good to know there are others out there who feel the same. HELLO STILL WILLING TO HELP YOU LEAVE THE CULT!!!!! RUN RUN RUN And what, start completely over from husband to children, friends, not even speaking about financially. It is virtually impossible unless my family comes with and supports it. Its not worth it to me to start over this way.
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Post by seeker on May 30, 2016 17:22:47 GMT
Not only has the PRC ruined many many lives and families, it continues to suck the life blood out of the existing members. When you leave that church.......and you get a chance to see what a shockingly horrible cult it actually is.....and you see siblings and children still there.....getting poisoned week after week after week....it is enough to rip your heart out. This has been our experience as well, as we see my wife's siblings in the PRC living very apathetic lives in terms of their faith, yet her parents assuming things are fine because they attend the PR church twice on Sunday. There is such a spiritual deadness there. It's hard to see. The prc says a dead man cannot call on god. they are so proud of this ideaology that they call it one of their distinctives. the sad thing is, it also applies to their church. dead people cannot see that they are dead or in a dead church
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 1:01:15 GMT
HELLO STILL WILLING TO HELP YOU LEAVE THE CULT!!!!! RUN RUN RUN And what, start completely over from husband to children, friends, not even speaking about financially. It is virtually impossible unless my family comes with and supports it. Its not worth it to me to start over this way. I would advise you to pray fervently that God would change your husbands heart. Pray that you would have courage. And search the scriptures. God is faithful.
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Post by KristianWrights on May 31, 2016 1:18:37 GMT
And what, start completely over from husband to children, friends, not even speaking about financially. It is virtually impossible unless my family comes with and supports it. Its not worth it to me to start over this way. I would advise you to pray fervently that God would change your husbands heart. Pray that you would have courage. And search the scriptures. God is faithful. Sorry I prayed for 7 years God didn't change my husbands heart. He still rather worship nature then God and rather worship himself than take care of his children and wife.... God is amazing and does wonderful things. Maybe if you stand up for what you believe in the rest will follow.
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Post by scared2bknown on May 31, 2016 2:12:30 GMT
HELLO STILL WILLING TO HELP YOU LEAVE THE CULT!!!!! RUN RUN RUN And what, start completely over from husband to children, friends, not even speaking about financially. It is virtually impossible unless my family comes with and supports it. Its not worth it to me to start over this way. I'm right there with you Crusader. I feel exactly the same way you do. I want to leave too, but, week after week we go through the same motions. I never feel spiritual uplifted after church is done. I too am terribly afraid I will lose family, friends if I try to leave at this point.
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Post by Joacom on May 31, 2016 2:41:31 GMT
And what, start completely over from husband to children, friends, not even speaking about financially. It is virtually impossible unless my family comes with and supports it. Its not worth it to me to start over this way. I'm right there with you Crusader. I feel exactly the same way you do. I want to leave too, but, week after week we go through the same motions. I never feel spiritual uplifted after church is done. I too am terribly afraid I will lose family, friends if I try to leave at this point. May God create an environment for you to leave that sec.in the name of Jesus Christ Amen
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Post by crazychurch on May 31, 2016 13:15:36 GMT
The sooner the better!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 17:34:12 GMT
And what, start completely over from husband to children, friends, not even speaking about financially. It is virtually impossible unless my family comes with and supports it. Its not worth it to me to start over this way. I'm right there with you Crusader. I feel exactly the same way you do. I want to leave too, but, week after week we go through the same motions. I never feel spiritual uplifted after church is done. I too am terribly afraid I will lose family, friends if I try to leave at this point. I can completely understand your reluctance in leaving, especially when children are involved. However, if one were to lose a friend over leaving a congregation, well you didn't lose a friend but a fake. As far as losing family, that is a pr behavior I just can't wrap my head around and suspect I never will. I don't know you, crusader or scared2bknown, so it is certainly not my place to give advice on leaving or staying. I feel for you and your situations and truly hope something will change in the future. Don't give up hope (that's encouragement, not advice). Over time maybe something will happen, especially if the children start asking questions and your answers are not of the pr "playbook" variety, or if your response is not an answer at all but shared doubt and uncertainty. Through this honest questioning and studying changes will occur. Do what you need to do. Remember that God doesn't need your correct twice a day pr "belief" or what's between your pretty little pr ears as much as he desires your trust.
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Post by KristianWrights on May 31, 2016 23:25:10 GMT
And what, start completely over from husband to children, friends, not even speaking about financially. It is virtually impossible unless my family comes with and supports it. Its not worth it to me to start over this way. I'm right there with you Crusader. I feel exactly the same way you do. I want to leave too, but, week after week we go through the same motions. I never feel spiritual uplifted after church is done. I too am terribly afraid I will lose family, friends if I try to leave at this point. I lost my brother and sister and all my friends. My husband lost his job and his parents and his sisters... We are in love and happy and are strong Christians in the lord. The lord has grace and forgiveness. And guess what you were always taught as a PR "the lord will provide".... Yes I thought my life was over after I tried suicide and lost my brother and sister but guess what I found Jesus Christ and his love and his forgiveness!!!!! Which is forever not life long but for ever!!! Life after death!!!! Praise the lord for what I went through!! I would have never known the boundless love the love that has NO END!!!!! Humans have an end.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 1:40:49 GMT
I would advise you to pray fervently that God would change your husbands heart. Pray that you would have courage. And search the scriptures. God is faithful. Sorry I prayed for 7 years God didn't change my husbands heart. He still rather worship nature then God and rather worship himself than take care of his children and wife.... God is amazing and does wonderful things. Maybe if you stand up for what you believe in the rest will follow. I get it. No guarantees. Everyone has free will. Oops did I just mention that scarey word?
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