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Post by ichabod on Jun 16, 2018 13:43:02 GMT
No need to apologise. Way more important things in life than a faceless forum which is inhabited by keyboard warriors ๐๐
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Post by Skyfall on Jun 16, 2018 14:03:37 GMT
Listen... I see a lot of deep rooted bitterness here towards the PRC. You shout about LOVE but fall short oftentimes. Attempting to graciously demonstrate to others what you perceive to be error is absent often. If no constructive discussion can be had then delete my account or whatever. If I could do it I would. I'll leave some on here to wallow in their own bitterness. Chow I read this whole thread, and at the end of the day, I completely understand WHY you wrote what you've written. I understand because I've been there. I used my little pointy darts to figure out the best way to handle something that feels uncomfortable, and then, BINGO - release the little darts to try to tick someone off because they have brought something to the table that most likely struck you square in the heart and you really didn't know how to handle that. So you lashed out. This is the curse of the PRC hangover. The question becomes - what are you going to do about this new information? Based on the quote above it appears that you're going to run away to your little area in life because someone said something and your BEST response is that it goes against the second commandment? What? That's the best answer you've got? With all of your training in the PRC, this is the thing you bring to the table? Wow. I'm not convinced that people here are bitter. I am convinced that you are bitter, however. If anything, I think this site made you think, and now you don't know what to do with the information. What you don't know is that you follow a typical PRC pattern. First you come here "seeking knowledge". Then you read and what you read scares you because it would involve serious life changing decisions. So what do you do? You resort to your training. But now your training really doesn't apply. So now you implode. But you still have a choice. You can either embrace what you've seen here or you can run. Perhaps apologize for lashing out, or call someone bitter. Perhaps LISTEN to what members like "oops" is saying, or run away, and report back and "harden your heart". Again, I understand WHY you wrote these things. But I don't agree with you at all.
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Post by Skyfall on Jun 16, 2018 14:07:41 GMT
No need to apologise. Way more important things in life than a faceless forum which is inhabited by keyboard warriors ๐๐ More imploding darts...
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Post by ichabod on Jun 16, 2018 15:57:10 GMT
I have been gagged by the faceless moderator's on this site. Such irony and hypocrisy given that is the exact purpose of this site's existence!....to seek to 'enlighten' those from a PRC background. Seems discussion, debate and gracious dialogue doesn't figure in the minds of those who commandeer this forum. What it demonstrates is that this is largely a melting pot of vitriol and bitterness towards the PRC. This site will damage your soul if you continue to partake in it's hatred. Yes, there are good people on here...genuine people. I had hoped to discuss issues. I have issue's with the PRC too. Alas! This was not to be. My final advice to those good people on here is FLEE THIS HATE FILLED SITE. My final advice to those who are hate filled is REPENT!!!! You will NEVER win anyone to your way of thinking by spouting such bitterness. ADMINISTRATION....Close my account...or tell me how too please.
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Post by cannalily on Jun 16, 2018 16:19:23 GMT
I have been gagged by the faceless moderator's on this site. Such irony and hypocrisy given that is the exact purpose of this site's existence!....to seek to 'enlighten' those from a PRC background. Seems discussion, debate and gracious dialogue doesn't figure in the minds of those who commandeer this forum. What it demonstrates is that this is largely a melting pot of vitriol and bitterness towards the PRC. This site will damage your soul if you continue to partake in it's hatred. Yes, there are good people on here...genuine people. I had hoped to discuss issues. I have issue's with the PRC too. Alas! This was not to be. My final advice to those good people on here is FLEE THIS HATE FILLED SITE. My final advice to those who are hate filled is REPENT!!!! You will NEVER win anyone to your way of thinking by spouting such bitterness. ADMINISTRATION....Close my account...or tell me how too please. So this was your entire reason for being here to begin with. In the end, true colors always show.
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Post by freefromprc on Jun 16, 2018 16:34:00 GMT
I have been gagged by the faceless moderator's on this site. Such irony and hypocrisy given that is the exact purpose of this site's existence!....to seek to 'enlighten' those from a PRC background. Seems discussion, debate and gracious dialogue doesn't figure in the minds of those who commandeer this forum. What it demonstrates is that this is largely a melting pot of vitriol and bitterness towards the PRC. This site will damage your soul if you continue to partake in it's hatred. Yes, there are good people on here...genuine people. I had hoped to discuss issues. I have issue's with the PRC too. Alas! This was not to be. My final advice to those good people on here is FLEE THIS HATE FILLED SITE. My final advice to those who are hate filled is REPENT!!!! You will NEVER win anyone to your way of thinking by spouting such bitterness. ADMINISTRATION....Close my account...or tell me how too please. Hate filled site? Did you even bother to read what 'oops' wrote? You are in the PRC shackles and the pressure is beyond what you can handle. I know, I was there. Your advice is actually the worst advice I have heard since I left your cult. I really truly hope you see someday that where you are is a very bad place. If you do, you will find a new appreciation for this site and the good people here.
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Post by crazychurch on Jun 16, 2018 16:59:07 GMT
I have been gagged by the faceless moderator's on this site. Such irony and hypocrisy given that is the exact purpose of this site's existence!....to seek to 'enlighten' those from a PRC background. Seems discussion, debate and gracious dialogue doesn't figure in the minds of those who commandeer this forum. What it demonstrates is that this is largely a melting pot of vitriol and bitterness towards the PRC. This site will damage your soul if you continue to partake in it's hatred. Yes, there are good people on here...genuine people. I had hoped to discuss issues. I have issue's with the PRC too. Alas! This was not to be. My final advice to those good people on here is FLEE THIS HATE FILLED SITE. My final advice to those who are hate filled is REPENT!!!! You will NEVER win anyone to your way of thinking by spouting such bitterness. ADMINISTRATION....Close my account...or tell me how too please. Wow! For someone with all the rules and regulations, you sure can't behave on a public board. What's up with that!
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Post by ichabod on Jun 16, 2018 19:48:24 GMT
Sorry to burst your little bitter bubbles...but I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE PRCA!!!! I will not be discussing anything further with anyone on here. It really is quite ironic that I was labelled as being PRC with all the trimmings...and then you place me 'under discipline' on this forum. Absolute hypocrisy. Enjoy the rest of your bitter and twisted discussions.
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Post by dandelionwine on Jun 16, 2018 20:13:04 GMT
ichabod Deaconberry ** Apr 2, 2018 at 5:03pm freefromprc likes this Quote likePost Options Leaving the prc church Thank you for your response. I have several issues. I think the crux of the matter is what I perceive to be an disproportionate imbalance between God's Sovereignty and man's responsibility. I feel some have become somewhat fatalistic. I do not sense a real desire to see sinners converted. The main emphasis seems to be on the covenant...to the detriment of having a love for those outside Christ. Love for doctrine is more important than love for people. Now, doctrine is vital and important...but people are too. Christ was obviously doctrinally perfect but he had compassion on people. I fail to sense that often in our churches. There is also a constant criticism of other churches and doctrine they hold. I believe there is a place for exposing false doctrines but NOT in every single sermon almost! I hope this makes sense. Read more: exprc.freeforums.net/user/273/recent?page=3#ixzz5IcYoai00This is one of your posts, ichabod, in "leaving the prc" thread. If you are not prc you sure left that impression with past posts. Whether or not you are prc ia a moot point with me. What I care about is your attitude. It scares me and makes me feel like I am witnessing a shouting match, or being yelled at myself. If you have problems with a certain few members, maybe you could inbox them? exprc.freeforums.net/thread/665/leaving-prc-church?page=1
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Post by oops on Jun 16, 2018 21:44:20 GMT
hey Ichabod, I'd barely met you, as I have not posted on this site in a while...and I've not read a whole lot of what you're topics of commentary were. I'm sorry my communications with you got bent out of alignment. I meant to share something kind and good...about Jesus, but my topic went array once it was thought I'd shared something with a graven image. I figured we sorted that out, and had hoped to keep communicating with you. Please don't go. Yes, a bunch of folks on this site are still zinging and stinging with nettles... I've been sadden by some of the retorts to those who are not in agreement on subjects.
I just hope you stick around...but I understand if you feel you must leave...as I agree...things can be rather unkind and sarcastic here too...sorry about that. It shouldn't be that way.
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Post by Skyfall on Jun 17, 2018 3:23:48 GMT
Sorry to burst your little bitter bubbles...but I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE PRCA!!!! I will not be discussing anything further with anyone on here. It really is quite ironic that I was labelled as being PRC with all the trimmings...and then you place me 'under discipline' on this forum. Absolute hypocrisy. Enjoy the rest of your bitter and twisted discussions. And after you throw your little darts to no avail, you play the victim card. Somehow everyone here is supposed to feel sorry for you because you acted, lied, and now are retreating. Please. We've seen this before, and you won't be the last.
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Post by soldierofChrist on Jun 17, 2018 3:56:13 GMT
Why are there accusations of hypocrisy, lies and other evils being thrown at someone who has made a comment on this thread (yes, fine the first one he made could have been said more lovingly) though if you look at his second post he steps up and does way better only to be slammed and on it has gone from there with I believe genuine apologies being made but by others, not so. Yes, I appreciate that there seems to be a discrepancy between earlier and later communication re membership in the PRCA but is it not possible that in the intervening weeks / months there has been a forfeiting of membership? Guys this is not Christian behaviour. I am not setting myself up on a pedestal and can assure you I am not secretly a PRCA supporter. Read my posts. Far from it. But seriously, we all have to do better. This is not honouring to Christ. When I saw 'Doctrine not indoctrination' I understood that to mean that the doctrines of Scripture are valued here. I hope so. If so then one of those doctrines has to be the doctrine concerning love, truth, mercy, honesty, patience, thinking no evil and judging ourselves before we judge others. Lastly, whoever expresses truth, even if the way it comes across is lacking, let us receive that truth separated from the dross as the case may be lest we become the ones who are hyper critical and hypocritical and bitter. Please receive these things which I have written to myself and you in Christian love.
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Post by judeverse24 on Jun 17, 2018 10:22:29 GMT
Sorry to burst your little bitter bubbles...but I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE PRCA!!!! I will not be discussing anything further with anyone on here. It really is quite ironic that I was labelled as being PRC with all the trimmings...and then you place me 'under discipline' on this forum. Absolute hypocrisy. Enjoy the rest of your bitter and twisted discussions. And after you throw your little darts to no avail, you play the victim card. Somehow everyone here is supposed to feel sorry for you because you acted, lied, and now are retreating. Please. We've seen this before, and you won't be the last. Perfectly summed up.
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Post by Skyfall on Jun 17, 2018 12:32:03 GMT
Why are there accusations of hypocrisy, lies and other evils being thrown at someone who has made a comment on this thread (yes, fine the first one he made could have been said more lovingly) though if you look at his second post he steps up and does way better only to be slammed and on it has gone from there with I believe genuine apologies being made but by others, not so. Yes, I appreciate that there seems to be a discrepancy between earlier and later communication re membership in the PRCA but is it not possible that in the intervening weeks / months there has been a forfeiting of membership? Guys this is not Christian behaviour. I am not setting myself up on a pedestal and can assure you I am not secretly a PRCA supporter. Read my posts. Far from it. But seriously, we all have to do better. This is not honouring to Christ. When I saw 'Doctrine not indoctrination' I understood that to mean that the doctrines of Scripture are valued here. I hope so. If so then one of those doctrines has to be the doctrine concerning love, truth, mercy, honesty, patience, thinking no evil and judging ourselves before we judge others. Lastly, whoever expresses truth, even if the way it comes across is lacking, let us receive that truth separated from the dross as the case may be lest we become the ones who are hyper critical and hypocritical and bitter. Please receive these things which I have written to myself and you in Christian love. I disagree fundamentally what you are saying here. Let's sum up what happened here, shall we? He comes on this board, we welcome him. At the end of the day, we don't care if he's in the PRC, or not. Then he asks good questions- "What should I do if I'm a member of the consistory and I want to leave?" Because of the board's anonymity policy, we need to assume that he is in fact part of the PRC and wants to leave. He never said, I'm not part of the PRC to begin with. So one of two things here, 1, he's fishing for real answers or 2, he's an impostor. Let's make one thing clear. Just because you aren't using your real name, does NOT mean you aren't honest with everyone here. There is a difference between being honest, and being anonymous. Incidentally, NO ONE is stopping anyone from telling everybody who they are in real life here. If you want to tell people who you really are, that's completely fine. It is NOT a requirement here. But we think it's important for those people who have been completely demolished by this cult to stay anonymous if they so choose, however. It is also important to understand that most people who have been burned by this cult want solitude. They crave real peace. They need a place to come and feel protected. People who have been damaged no longer need to hear how bad the second commandment is going to rain down on their new found love for Jesus. No one here, knows the real life struggles that have occurred with the individuals here. As you know some are heartbreaking. But no one here needs an "ichabod" ruining a perfectly good thread (about Jesus, no less) because of his closet belief of salvation. This is NOT truth. This is NOT Jesus. This is NOT loving. This is nothing but more cult antics. And it was quickly picked out as such. So for you, I respectfully disagree with your premise.
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Post by dandelionwine on Jun 17, 2018 16:21:47 GMT
Beautiful, "oops". Thank you.
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