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Post by HeidiVW on Jan 4, 2020 18:34:18 GMT
Question about retirement for pastors
Because the pastors are working, they would need to pay into social security correct? So when these pastors retire, they would have social security that the church cannot take away. Or is the retirement set up differently?
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Post by freefromprc on Jan 14, 2020 18:31:00 GMT
Question about retirement for pastors Because the pastors are working, they would need to pay into social security correct? So when these pastors retire, they would have social security that the church cannot take away. Or is the retirement set up differently? Its complicated how ministers get taxed. They also set up their income in such a way that allows them to beat a lot of tax. Even the fact that they live in a home at no cost. Its also interesting that all of the 'Reverends' who drive the people to riots are tax evaders as well - they are reverends only for tax purposes....we have a holiday for one coming up shortly.
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Post by questioneverything on Jan 15, 2020 2:09:54 GMT
Question about retirement for pastors Because the pastors are working, they would need to pay into social security correct? So when these pastors retire, they would have social security that the church cannot take away. Or is the retirement set up differently? Its complicated how ministers get taxed. They also set up their income in such a way that allows them to beat a lot of tax. Even the fact that they live in a home at no cost. Its also interesting that all of the 'Reverends' who drive the people to riots are tax evaders as well - they are reverends only for tax purposes....we have a holiday for one coming up shortly. I agree with the tax evasion issue. Although I don't feel the impending holiday celebrates "driving" people to riots, unless you consider his murder driving people to riots, which it certainly did, unfortunately but maybe understandably. Personally, I think the unrest of the civil rights movement was important and necessary in the '60s. Unfortunate, yes, but necessary in a country that was (and still is) struggling with its bigotry and racism. Something that was certainly not absent in the Reformed world...not at all! I have found "Reformed people" to be some of the most racist people I have come in contact with, even now. Nevertheless, too many "reverends" do take advantage of the religious tax laws, disgustingly so.
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Post by maggie on Jan 15, 2020 16:13:58 GMT
Wow, I did not know this!Does that mean that they get Soc Sec as well as retirement pension??? My husband and I live on SS and we struggle to make ends meet
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Post by Feminist on Jan 15, 2020 17:49:02 GMT
Ministers who drive the people to riots? I’m intrigued. What are the details of this?
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Post by seeker on Jan 16, 2020 16:39:03 GMT
Ministers who drive the people to riots? I’m intrigued. What are the details of this? rev martin luther king jr rev al sharpton rev louis farakkhan rev jessie jackson ..many many more
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Post by questioneverything on Jan 17, 2020 0:50:06 GMT
Ministers who drive the people to riots? I’m intrigued. What are the details of this? rev martin luther king jr rev al sharpton rev louis farakkhan rev jessie jackson ..many many more The Protestant Church in Ireland. The Catholic Church in Ireland White people in Cincinnati in 1836, attacking freed slaves. Protestants in 1855 attacking German and Irish Catholics in Kentucky. (Bloody Monday). Philadelphia nativist riots of 1844. White supremacists in Virginia. Evangelical pastors supporting end-times theology and hoping for Armageddon...the Rapture
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Post by usetawas on Jan 28, 2021 15:58:45 GMT
Ministers who drive the people to riots? I’m intrigued. What are the details of this? I may be wrong, but I believe ministers do not pay into social security and therefore do not collect any. The churches have a fund I believe that goes to support retired pastors.
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Post by throwaway2018 on Jan 28, 2021 16:31:42 GMT
Ministers who drive the people to riots? I’m intrigued. What are the details of this? I may be wrong, but I believe ministers do not pay into social security and therefore do not collect any. The churches have a fund I believe that goes to support retired pastors. If this is the case the PRC is worse than I thought. It's incredibly controlling to deprive an employee of social security. It's even more of a guarantee that you can't leave/speak out against the denomination if you don't want your retirement threatened. Can anyone confirm if this is true?
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Post by questioneverything on Jan 28, 2021 19:19:11 GMT
I may be wrong, but I believe ministers do not pay into social security and therefore do not collect any. The churches have a fund I believe that goes to support retired pastors. If this is the case the PRC is worse than I thought. It's incredibly controlling to deprive an employee of social security. It's even more of a guarantee that you can't leave/speak out against the denomination if you don't want your retirement threatened. Can anyone confirm if this is true? From the IRS website: "For services in the exercise of the ministry, members of the clergy receive a Form W-2 but do not have social security or Medicare taxes withheld. They must pay social security and Medicare by filing Form 1040 (Schedule SE), Self-Employment Tax."
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Post by pemptyr on Jan 28, 2021 22:49:36 GMT
Ministers who drive the people to riots? I’m intrigued. What are the details of this? rev martin luther king jr rev al sharpton rev louis farakkhan rev jessie jackson ..many many more You can read the standard bearer online, they have articles from the 1940s, I seen one where herman hoeksema was writing about ww2 and how the white man subjugated the yellow man, going on about that, of course you have to take it from the perspective of that time. I thought he did a pretty good job of it.
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