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Post by endthesilence on Mar 15, 2023 19:20:36 GMT
I believed in you. You raised me to believe truth and justice mattered. You taught me the process is slow but it always works right in the end. And I stood up for you. When people told me you were corrupt and only cared about the system that fed you, I told them you were men of God and you'd do the right thing. And what did you give me? You gave me a full frontal display of church political bullshit. I watched you Godforsaken liars tell us you cared about the victims. Oh, how you cared! So so so much. And when we asked you to give us a place where we could find healing you told us to go fuck ourselves, you didn't care THAT much. You didn't even have the courage to face us while you slapped us down once again. Well I have this to say: to hell with you. To hell with your lies. To hell with your coverups. To hell with your caring about victims so much you won't even let us name our abusers. To hell with all of it. Go back to the Devil who spawned you you lying stinking workers of iniquity.
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Post by Hw on Mar 15, 2023 20:15:58 GMT
I believed in you. You raised me to believe truth and justice mattered. You taught me the process is slow but it always works right in the end. And I stood up for you. When people told me you were corrupt and only cared about the system that fed you, I told them you were men of God and you'd do the right thing. And what did you give me? You gave me a full frontal display of church political bullshit. I watched you Godforsaken liars tell us you cared about the victims. Oh, how you cared! So so so much. And when we asked you to give us a place where we could find healing you told us to go fuck ourselves, you didn't care THAT much. You didn't even have the courage to face us while you slapped us down once again. Well I have this to say: to hell with you. To hell with your lies. To hell with your coverups. To hell with your caring about victims so much you won't even let us name our abusers. To hell with all of it. Go back to the Devil who spawned you you lying stinking workers of iniquity. I am truly so very sorry for how horribly hurt you are. I mean that. Wicked vile men. That's what i saw today. Worried only about their name and pensions. Jesus wept today but is going to demand answers. The battle is not over. It's just going to look different. We are so glad you are here. If you need anything, even just a shoulder to sob into or an ear to listen, i am here. The pain and betrayal is real. Seeing women weeping on the sidewalk left me utterly gutted and i feel I've failed them again. I must do more. I'm not done until they repent and confess. Turn to us for anything. We will not betray you or abandon you
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Post by endthesilence on Mar 15, 2023 20:20:54 GMT
I believed in you. You raised me to believe truth and justice mattered. You taught me the process is slow but it always works right in the end. And I stood up for you. When people told me you were corrupt and only cared about the system that fed you, I told them you were men of God and you'd do the right thing. And what did you give me? You gave me a full frontal display of church political bullshit. I watched you Godforsaken liars tell us you cared about the victims. Oh, how you cared! So so so much. And when we asked you to give us a place where we could find healing you told us to go fuck ourselves, you didn't care THAT much. You didn't even have the courage to face us while you slapped us down once again. Well I have this to say: to hell with you. To hell with your lies. To hell with your coverups. To hell with your caring about victims so much you won't even let us name our abusers. To hell with all of it. Go back to the Devil who spawned you you lying stinking workers of iniquity. I am truly so very sorry for how horribly hurt you are. I mean that. Wicked vile men. That's what i saw today. Worried only about their name and pensions. Jesus wept today but is going to demand answers. The battle is not over. It's just going to look different. We are so glad you are here. If you need anything, even just a shoulder to sob into or an ear to listen, i am here. The pain and betrayal is real. Seeing women weeping on the sidewalk left me utterly gutted and i feel I've failed them again. I must do more. I'm not done until the repent and confess. Turn to us for anything. We will not betray you or abandon you YOU didn't fail them. Don't ever blame yourself. Evil men who care only about power and control actively chose to reject justice.
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Post by cannalily on Mar 16, 2023 1:20:00 GMT
I am truly so very sorry for how horribly hurt you are. I mean that. Wicked vile men. That's what i saw today. Worried only about their name and pensions. Jesus wept today but is going to demand answers. The battle is not over. It's just going to look different. We are so glad you are here. If you need anything, even just a shoulder to sob into or an ear to listen, i am here. The pain and betrayal is real. Seeing women weeping on the sidewalk left me utterly gutted and i feel I've failed them again. I must do more. I'm not done until the repent and confess. Turn to us for anything. We will not betray you or abandon you YOU didn't fail them. Don't ever blame yourself. Evil men who care only about power and control actively chose to reject justice. This 100%. These people are the pinnacle of pure evil. More than the devil worshipers, with the blood, and all that. Because they make believe they care, and they don't.
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Post by ExposeTheRot on Mar 17, 2023 11:43:43 GMT
I believed in you. You raised me to believe truth and justice mattered. You taught me the process is slow but it always works right in the end. And I stood up for you. When people told me you were corrupt and only cared about the system that fed you, I told them you were men of God and you'd do the right thing. And what did you give me? You gave me a full frontal display of church political bullshit. I watched you Godforsaken liars tell us you cared about the victims. Oh, how you cared! So so so much. And when we asked you to give us a place where we could find healing you told us to go fuck ourselves, you didn't care THAT much. You didn't even have the courage to face us while you slapped us down once again. Well I have this to say: to hell with you. To hell with your lies. To hell with your coverups. To hell with your caring about victims so much you won't even let us name our abusers. To hell with all of it. Go back to the Devil who spawned you you lying stinking workers of iniquity. I am truly so very sorry for how horribly hurt you are. I mean that. Wicked vile men. That's what i saw today. Worried only about their name and pensions. Jesus wept today but is going to demand answers. The battle is not over. It's just going to look different. We are so glad you are here. If you need anything, even just a shoulder to sob into or an ear to listen, i am here. The pain and betrayal is real. Seeing women weeping on the sidewalk left me utterly gutted and i feel I've failed them again. I must do more. I'm not done until they repent and confess. Turn to us for anything. We will not betray you or abandon you Heidi, I've read a lot of your posts on this website, and have come to the conclusion that you are an incredibly strong woman. But please understand that even those in the profession of helping child abusers later in life strive in success in even the most blatant of cases. Emotional abuse, which is a classic move (aka shunning, restricting rewards, etc) in the PRCA is one of the hardest things to prove. Of course they get to slip through the cracks of life because it's very difficult from a legal perspective to prove anything. Therefore, saying you failed them is utterly incorrect. If anything you've brought an incredibly serious matter to the forefront and as a result, this doesn't go away for the PRCA. With all of this, it's important to know that those who have been harmed HEAR YOU. See below:
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Post by Hw on Mar 17, 2023 12:07:08 GMT
I am truly so very sorry for how horribly hurt you are. I mean that. Wicked vile men. That's what i saw today. Worried only about their name and pensions. Jesus wept today but is going to demand answers. The battle is not over. It's just going to look different. We are so glad you are here. If you need anything, even just a shoulder to sob into or an ear to listen, i am here. The pain and betrayal is real. Seeing women weeping on the sidewalk left me utterly gutted and i feel I've failed them again. I must do more. I'm not done until they repent and confess. Turn to us for anything. We will not betray you or abandon you Heidi, I've read a lot of your posts on this website, and have come to the conclusion that you are an incredibly strong woman. But please understand that even those in the profession of helping child abusers later in life strive in success in even the most blatant of cases. Emotional abuse, which is a classic move (aka shunning, restricting rewards, etc) in the PRCA is one of the hardest things to prove. Of course they get to slip through the cracks of life because it's very difficult from a legal perspective to prove anything. Therefore, saying you failed them is utterly incorrect. If anything you've brought an incredibly serious matter to the forefront and as a result, this doesn't go away for the PRCA. With all of this, it's important to know that those who have been harmed HEAR YOU. See below: Thank you for this. That feeling of failing them comes only from my feeling of deep hurt over their pain. My logical brain knows that i cannot make it all better. My brain knows that it isn't up to me. My heart does hurt and grieve over them. I want desperately for the pain to stop, the abuse to be stopped and revealed, and the abusers to be made to pay a price because their victims will pay for the rest of their lives. Thank God it does not have to drag you down and rob you of joy in your life. But it will never not be part of their story. It forever changed them. What is that worth to that denomination? You can Matthew 18 someone all you want but it does not heal the permanent injury that was done to the victim. They are so off in their warped thinking. More worried about the abusers soul (pocketbook?) than their victims. Abusers had a choice and they opted to hurt people. Victims didn't get the luxury of a choice. Thank you for this. Some days, I feel invincible and others I feel completely ineffective. I've come to believe that's normal when you are staring at an enormous wall of abuse and you know that the numbers of victims is staggering. Thanks again and I'm glad you are here
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Post by seeker on Mar 23, 2023 21:43:20 GMT
I believed in you. You raised me to believe truth and justice mattered. You taught me the process is slow but it always works right in the end. And I stood up for you. When people told me you were corrupt and only cared about the system that fed you, I told them you were men of God and you'd do the right thing. And what did you give me? You gave me a full frontal display of church political bullshit. I watched you Godforsaken liars tell us you cared about the victims. Oh, how you cared! So so so much. And when we asked you to give us a place where we could find healing you told us to go fuck ourselves, you didn't care THAT much. You didn't even have the courage to face us while you slapped us down once again. Well I have this to say: to hell with you. To hell with your lies. To hell with your coverups. To hell with your caring about victims so much you won't even let us name our abusers. To hell with all of it. Go back to the Devil who spawned you you lying stinking workers of iniquity. well said. it is the irony of the whole thing. the things we were supposed to do, the people we were supposed to be, is who we expect them to be. they just suck. you don't really see this until you are out. the ones who have been born into it have been fooled their entire lives.
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Post by blindrealist on Mar 23, 2023 22:40:13 GMT
I believed in you. You raised me to believe truth and justice mattered. You taught me the process is slow but it always works right in the end. And I stood up for you. When people told me you were corrupt and only cared about the system that fed you, I told them you were men of God and you'd do the right thing. And what did you give me? You gave me a full frontal display of church political bullshit. I watched you Godforsaken liars tell us you cared about the victims. Oh, how you cared! So so so much. And when we asked you to give us a place where we could find healing you told us to go fuck ourselves, you didn't care THAT much. You didn't even have the courage to face us while you slapped us down once again. Well I have this to say: to hell with you. To hell with your lies. To hell with your coverups. To hell with your caring about victims so much you won't even let us name our abusers. To hell with all of it. Go back to the Devil who spawned you you lying stinking workers of iniquity. well said. it is the irony of the whole thing. the things we were supposed to do, the people we were supposed to be, is who we expect them to be. they just suck. you don't really see this until you are out. the ones who have been born into it have been fooled their entire lives. So true. But what gets me the most is the certainty that grips me that they don't want to be who we expect them to be. That's too far beneath them. Its gratifying to them to control through manipulation and deception. It just feeds their sense of importance. Rules and true expectations are for the little people. They're too important (and the denomination in their strange minds). Its why the whole abuse framework applies to them. Its also one of the reasons why you've got SB issues and articles on abuse, and why Prof. Dykstra needs to lecture on abuse. They should really be writing articles and lecturing on ecclesiastical abuse and spiritual abuse.
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Post by cannalily on Mar 24, 2023 17:41:31 GMT
well said. it is the irony of the whole thing. the things we were supposed to do, the people we were supposed to be, is who we expect them to be. they just suck. you don't really see this until you are out. the ones who have been born into it have been fooled their entire lives. So true. But what gets me the most is the certainty that grips me that they don't want to be who we expect them to be. That's too far beneath them. Its gratifying to them to control through manipulation and deception. It just feeds their sense of importance. Rules and true expectations are for the little people. They're too important (and the denomination in their strange minds). Its why the whole abuse framework applies to them. Its also one of the reasons why you've got SB issues and articles on abuse, and why Prof. Dykstra needs to lecture on abuse. They should really be writing articles and lecturing on ecclesiastical abuse and spiritual abuse. Or knock it off with all of the articles, and simply come clean on what they're hiding. The whole article writing thing is so 1950's. The entire system is so outdated, and not even in a roman catholic way. They're just old, and their shit is old. Just so mildew old. Like, really? They're still peddling this shit?
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