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Post by wewerepr on Sept 11, 2021 4:13:30 GMT
In 2001 I was in Iowa. The lack of reaction from the PRCA church to the truly world changing events on September 11th was partly the reason to leave. Elsewhere it's stated that the PRCA is tone-deaf, and can't read rooms well....well the PRCA is also real world impact deaf. There was an almost obligatory prayer service organized, but little to no understanding of the traumatic change our nation was going thru.
I believe David Englesma had some snappy comeback about mid-eastern terrorists killing children worked up after several months and a public debate forced him...maybe it was Barry Gritters?...to speak publically about the terrorist attacks of that day.
But in general, I never did see the PRCA acknowledge the horrific loss of life and life altering events of 9/11. I could have missed it...the PRCA reaction.
I believe this lack of empathy and real world application to their own people and churches is an example of the group think: "we are the only ones going to heaven, all the ills of this world that happen to anyone outside the PRCA is par for the course, after all they are not part of the particular chosen."
Floods, landslides, tsunamis, storms, heat waves, cold spells, droughts ....they don't effect any PRCA members....so no trouble to us.
Wars, rumors of wars, political unrest....don't effect us PRCA people...probably not anyone going to heaven...so not God's chosen..so not to worry about...
Writing this out makes me sick and sad...and glad to be PRC free
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Post by soldierofChrist on Sept 11, 2021 4:24:57 GMT
Yes indeed this is really sad indeed. The irony is that it isn't laziness on their part it is more a case of their peculiar distinctives that lead them to have this failed perspective that gives rise to what looks like an 'I don't care' attitude but it is really that their system paralyses them! Yes it sounds convoluted, I agree! It is convoluted! That IS what false teaching does!
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Post by profit on Sept 11, 2021 6:20:53 GMT
I feel you. There is a lack of empathy for the world outside the pr church.
Something that always bothered me was the opportunistic preaching when talking about the Christians around the world suffering persecution in China and the middle east and other places. But yet they bar communion from all but sister churches and often speak about the apostate nominal Christians who profane Gods name with their belief in common grace and the well meant offer. It's a crock.
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Post by Hw on Sept 11, 2021 12:32:19 GMT
On this day, 20 years ago, I was bringing my 6 month old to a routine dr appt. That son is now a Marine. His younger brother just finished his Crucible and also became a Marine this morning! We are fiercely proud. I remember being told by PRs not to support my children going into the military. Why?? because it wasn't a Christian atmosphere. Take a flying leap. My sons are defending your freedom to stay in that horrible cult.
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Post by prnolonger on Sept 11, 2021 12:33:31 GMT
Caring about the world outside the church is social gospel, heretic. Something something something God hates Esau.
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Post by tetra on Sept 11, 2021 13:20:05 GMT
You got me curious and I skimmed through a few of the issues of the Standard Bearer that came out after 9/11 to see if there was any reaction there. There are articles on Stem cells, qualifications of deacons, lots of articles about Martin Luther (I guess for Reformation Day), and even a bit about the dangers of playing Pokemon. I really had to search to find one part of one article that mentioned 9/11. And it only confirmed what others here have said so far. sb.rfpa.org/news-from-our-churches-598/This article shows literally had no concern about it other than how they were affected. This sentence stood out to me: "How do we show concern for God’s people who may have suffered directly from the tragedy?" Would it be so bad to feel for the non-Christians who were horribly affected by this tragedy? Why is it necessary to only show empathy for God's people and ignore everyone else?
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Post by questioneverything on Sept 11, 2021 13:50:54 GMT
You got me curious and I skimmed through a few of the issues of the Standard Bearer that came out after 9/11 to see if there was any reaction there. There are articles on Stem cells, qualifications of deacons, lots of articles about Martin Luther (I guess for Reformation Day), and even a bit about the dangers of playing Pokemon. I really had to search to find one part of one article that mentioned 9/11. And it only confirmed what others here have said so far. sb.rfpa.org/news-from-our-churches-598/This article shows literally had no concern about it other than how they were affected. This sentence stood out to me: "How do we show concern for God’s people who may have suffered directly from the tragedy?" Would it be so bad to feel for the non-Christians who were horribly affected by this tragedy? Why is it necessary to only show empathy for God's people and ignore everyone else? Sad, pathetic really, but certainly expected. Such a selfish, conceited church.
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Post by questioneverything on Sept 11, 2021 14:16:49 GMT
Yes indeed this is really sad indeed. The irony is that it isn't laziness on their part it is more a case of their peculiar distinctives that lead them to have this failed perspective that gives rise to what looks like an 'I don't care' attitude but it is really that their system paralyses them! Yes it sounds convoluted, I agree! It is convoluted! That IS what false teaching does! If it equals convoluted, you should know.
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Post by questioneverything on Sept 11, 2021 14:31:27 GMT
In 2001 I was in Iowa. The lack of reaction from the PRCA church to the truly world changing events on September 11th was partly the reason to leave. Elsewhere it's stated that the PRCA is tone-deaf, and can't read rooms well....well the PRCA is also real world impact deaf. There was an almost obligatory prayer service organized, but little to no understanding of the traumatic change our nation was going thru. I believe David Englesma had some snappy comeback about mid-eastern terrorists killing children worked up after several months and a public debate forced him...maybe it was Barry Gritters?...to speak publically about the terrorist attacks of that day. But in general, I never did see the PRCA acknowledge the horrific loss of life and life altering events of 9/11. I could have missed it...the PRCA reaction. I believe this lack of empathy and real world application to their own people and churches is an example of the group think: " we are the only ones going to heaven, all the ills of this world that happen to anyone outside the PRCA is par for the course, after all they are not part of the particular chosen."Floods, landslides, tsunamis, storms, heat waves, cold spells, droughts ....they don't effect any PRCA members....so no trouble to us. Wars, rumors of wars, political unrest....don't effect us PRCA people...probably not anyone going to heaven...so not God's chosen..so not to worry about... Writing this out makes me sick and sad...and glad to be PRC free They're such an adorable apocalyptic bunch, aren't they?
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Post by tetra on Sept 11, 2021 14:39:56 GMT
You got me curious and I skimmed through a few of the issues of the Standard Bearer that came out after 9/11 to see if there was any reaction there. There are articles on Stem cells, qualifications of deacons, lots of articles about Martin Luther (I guess for Reformation Day), and even a bit about the dangers of playing Pokemon. I really had to search to find one part of one article that mentioned 9/11. And it only confirmed what others here have said so far. sb.rfpa.org/news-from-our-churches-598/This article shows literally had no concern about it other than how they were affected. This sentence stood out to me: "How do we show concern for God’s people who may have suffered directly from the tragedy?" Would it be so bad to feel for the non-Christians who were horribly affected by this tragedy? Why is it necessary to only show empathy for God's people and ignore everyone else? Another thing just hit me. "How do we show concern for God’s people who may have suffered directly from the tragedy?" There's no doubt that plenty of Christians were directly affected. But were they actually True Christians ("God's People")? There might have been some.
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Post by wewerepr on Sept 11, 2021 14:49:26 GMT
You got me curious and I skimmed through a few of the issues of the Standard Bearer that came out after 9/11 to see if there was any reaction there. There are articles on Stem cells, qualifications of deacons, lots of articles about Martin Luther (I guess for Reformation Day), and even a bit about the dangers of playing Pokemon. I really had to search to find one part of one article that mentioned 9/11. And it only confirmed what others here have said so far. sb.rfpa.org/news-from-our-churches-598/This article shows literally had no concern about it other than how they were affected. This sentence stood out to me: "How do we show concern for God’s people who may have suffered directly from the tragedy?" Would it be so bad to feel for the non-Christians who were horribly affected by this tragedy? Why is it necessary to only show empathy for God's people and ignore everyone else? Another thing just hit me. "How do we show concern for God’s people who may have suffered directly from the tragedy?" There's no doubt that plenty of Christians were directly affected. But were they actually True Christians ("God's People")? There might have been some. Yes Tetra! Yes! Only a self conceited fool (used this morning by another poster) would think that there were no true Christians ("God's People') killed that day. PRCA! , I spit you out of my mouth!
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Post by Skyfall on Sept 11, 2021 15:43:09 GMT
You got me curious and I skimmed through a few of the issues of the Standard Bearer that came out after 9/11 to see if there was any reaction there. There are articles on Stem cells, qualifications of deacons, lots of articles about Martin Luther (I guess for Reformation Day), and even a bit about the dangers of playing Pokemon. I really had to search to find one part of one article that mentioned 9/11. And it only confirmed what others here have said so far. sb.rfpa.org/news-from-our-churches-598/This article shows literally had no concern about it other than how they were affected. This sentence stood out to me: "How do we show concern for God’s people who may have suffered directly from the tragedy?" Would it be so bad to feel for the non-Christians who were horribly affected by this tragedy? Why is it necessary to only show empathy for God's people and ignore everyone else? Another thing just hit me. "How do we show concern for God’s people who may have suffered directly from the tragedy?" There's no doubt that plenty of Christians were directly affected. But were they actually True Christians ("God's People")? There might have been some. When did the PRC church in New Jersey eventually fold? Yeah, so "may have" might be a good line. Otherwise, there's no Christians on the East coast any more. /satire
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