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Post by pemptyr on May 5, 2021 19:40:29 GMT
I was reading deweys latest blog entry about how classis didn't apologize to connie myers and realized he has a lot of truth to what he wrote there. Has anyone noticed when someone from the pr church does you wrong in some way they might apologize by saying sorry but then making an effort to avoid you? Possibly they might wave or say hi in public but otherwise won't go further than that. Like their apologies are meant to save face and not to save a relationship or develop one.
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Post by questioneverything on May 5, 2021 20:28:00 GMT
I was reading deweys latest blog entry about how classis didn't apologize to connie myers and realized he has a lot of truth to what he wrote there. Has anyone noticed when someone from the pr church does you wrong in some way they might apologize by saying sorry but then making an effort to avoid you? Possibly they might wave or say hi in public but otherwise won't go further than that. Like their apologies are meant to save face and not to save a relationship or develop one. Yes, very much so. They're really quite a defensive, fragile herd. I suspect the new mutation will display similar traits.
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Post by prnolonger on May 5, 2021 20:59:14 GMT
Yes, very much so. They're really quite a defensive, fragile herd. I suspect the new mutation will display similar traits. Lol. Mutations. "Well if RPC came from PRC, then how come there's still PRC?" "If the RPC came from the PRC, and there are differences, then shouldn't there be a record of some kind of in-between, transitional church?" "I dunno, this whole spanning tree showing which church came from where is only a theory, and it is full of holes. I just think the simpler answer is correct here, that the RPC simply was just created the way it is now and has always existed this way."
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Post by prnolonger on May 5, 2021 21:14:32 GMT
I was reading deweys latest blog entry about how classis didn't apologize to connie myers and realized he has a lot of truth to what he wrote there. Has anyone noticed when someone from the pr church does you wrong in some way they might apologize by saying sorry but then making an effort to avoid you? Possibly they might wave or say hi in public but otherwise won't go further than that. Like their apologies are meant to save face and not to save a relationship or develop one. Apologies are not about feelings or relationships between people, its about Truth™. Once you realize that's the lens through which fundamentalists view everything, it will help you understand why apologies suck in general in fundamentalist circles. Apologies are not to be viewed in an interpersonal relationship context. They are to be viewed in the context of right and wrong, always. - I'm not sorry because you're erring from the Truth™.
- I'm sorry hearing the Truth™ hurts your feelings.
- I'm sorry our relationship has to suffer because you won't apologize for erring from the Truth™.
- I have the Truth™, you have the lie. You don't apologize for the Truth™, you apologize for the lie. Therefore it is you who has to apologize to me. And not just to me, but also God. You should apologize. Jesus says you should apologize.
Apologies are always framed in the context of being done wrong in some sort of scriptural sense. It is never given because you hurt their feelings, or because of an unpleasant experience. Apologies aren't about you, or about sympathy, or regret for inflicting damage. Apologies aren't even about easing pain. Apologies are about winning. You apologized, that means I'm right. You haven't apologized yet, that means you're still wrong. In the case of the blog and your original post, I'd say it's less about Dewey being right about this, it's more about RP's and the PR's each thinking they got the Truth™. He's not coming to any sort of revelation about how the PR's don't apologize well, he's making the point the the PR's should apologize to him (and Connie, or whoever else) because they are erring from the Truth™. And if you disagree then I'm sorry.
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Post by wewerepr on May 5, 2021 21:33:06 GMT
These posts seem spot on and rekindle the mind numbing fog of disbelief and apathy that engulfs ones soul when having to deal with the men that are labeled “the best and the brightest” of the PRCA and now the RP. Jesus is Truth. these leaders need to be more humble in prayer and repentance and less looking for who needs to apologize to who.
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Post by questioneverything on May 5, 2021 21:42:35 GMT
I suspect the new mutation will display similar traits. Lol. Mutations. "Well if RPC came from PRC, then how come there's still PRC?" "If the RPC came from the PRC, and there are differences, then shouldn't there be a record of some kind of in-between, transitional church?" "I dunno, this whole spanning tree showing which church came from where is only a theory, and it is full of holes. I just think the simpler answer is correct here, that the RPC simply was just created the way it is now and has always existed this way." Ah, yes, Natural Election.
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Post by fellowhuman on May 5, 2021 22:10:04 GMT
"I dunno, this whole spanning tree showing which church came from where is only a theory, and it is full of holes. I just think the simpler answer is correct here, that the RPC simply was just created the way it is now and has always existed this way."
Haha - 1984 anyone? "Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia"
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Post by pemptyr on May 5, 2021 22:32:29 GMT
I was reading deweys latest blog entry about how classis didn't apologize to connie myers and realized he has a lot of truth to what he wrote there. Has anyone noticed when someone from the pr church does you wrong in some way they might apologize by saying sorry but then making an effort to avoid you? Possibly they might wave or say hi in public but otherwise won't go further than that. Like their apologies are meant to save face and not to save a relationship or develop one. Apologies are not about feelings or relationships between people, its about Truth™. Once you realize that's the lens through which fundamentalists view everything, it will help you understand why apologies suck in general in fundamentalist circles. Apologies are not to be viewed in an interpersonal relationship context. They are to be viewed in the context of right and wrong, always. - I'm not sorry because you're erring from the Truth™.
- I'm sorry hearing the Truth™ hurts your feelings.
- I'm sorry our relationship has to suffer because you won't apologize for erring from the Truth™.
- I have the Truth™, you have the lie. You don't apologize for the Truth™, you apologize for the lie. Therefore it is you who has to apologize to me. And not just to me, but also God. You should apologize. Jesus says you should apologize.
Apologies are always framed in the context of being done wrong in some sort of scriptural sense. It is never given because you hurt their feelings, or because of an unpleasant experience. Apologies aren't about you, or about sympathy, or regret for inflicting damage. Apologies aren't even about easing pain. Apologies are about winning. You apologized, that means I'm right. You haven't apologized yet, that means you're still wrong. In the case of the blog and your original post, I'd say it's less about Dewey being right about this, it's more about RP's and the PR's each thinking they got the Truth™. He's not coming to any sort of revelation about how the PR's don't apologize well, he's making the point the the PR's should apologize to him (and Connie, or whoever else) because they are erring from the Truth™. And if you disagree then I'm sorry. You just trade marked the truth
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Post by prnolonger on May 6, 2021 2:32:16 GMT
Apologies are not about feelings or relationships between people, its about Truth™. Once you realize that's the lens through which fundamentalists view everything, it will help you understand why apologies suck in general in fundamentalist circles. Apologies are not to be viewed in an interpersonal relationship context. They are to be viewed in the context of right and wrong, always. - I'm not sorry because you're erring from the Truth™.
- I'm sorry hearing the Truth™ hurts your feelings.
- I'm sorry our relationship has to suffer because you won't apologize for erring from the Truth™.
- I have the Truth™, you have the lie. You don't apologize for the Truth™, you apologize for the lie. Therefore it is you who has to apologize to me. And not just to me, but also God. You should apologize. Jesus says you should apologize.
Apologies are always framed in the context of being done wrong in some sort of scriptural sense. It is never given because you hurt their feelings, or because of an unpleasant experience. Apologies aren't about you, or about sympathy, or regret for inflicting damage. Apologies aren't even about easing pain. Apologies are about winning. You apologized, that means I'm right. You haven't apologized yet, that means you're still wrong. In the case of the blog and your original post, I'd say it's less about Dewey being right about this, it's more about RP's and the PR's each thinking they got the Truth™. He's not coming to any sort of revelation about how the PR's don't apologize well, he's making the point the the PR's should apologize to him (and Connie, or whoever else) because they are erring from the Truth™. And if you disagree then I'm sorry. You just trade marked the truth Are you denying the Truth™? I demand you apologize! Your lack of apology is proof of your apostatizing ways and your falling away from the Truth™. If you apologize, it proves I was wronged, and thus that I have the Truth™. See how that works? Either way I win. And it's because I have the Truth™. Repent, heretic!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 4:34:06 GMT
I suspect the new mutation will display similar traits. Lol. Mutations. "Well if RPC came from PRC, then how come there's still PRC?"
"If the RPC came from the PRC, and there are differences, then shouldn't there be a record of some kind of in-between, transitional church?""I dunno, this whole spanning tree showing which church came from where is only a theory, and it is full of holes. I just think the simpler answer is correct here, that the RPC simply was just created the way it is now and has always existed this way." Is this supposed to be some kind of logic problem? Stop making us think so hard.
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Post by cannalily on May 6, 2021 13:03:01 GMT
These posts seem spot on and rekindle the mind numbing fog of disbelief and apathy that engulfs ones soul when having to deal with the men that are labeled “the best and the brightest” of the PRCA and now the RP. Jesus is Truth. these leaders need to be more humble in prayer and repentance and less looking for who needs to apologize to who. Completely agree. These jerks think it's 1930 all over again. So dated. So pathetic. They think they're creating another schism that's going to be world renown. Huge fish in a very little pond. What a waste of time, energy, and effort.... what sucks are the pawns being dragged into this. More family disruption, concern for the "unfaithful", and mental anguish, when BOTH of these organizations are nothing but glorified cults. Ugh.
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Post by qazwsx on May 7, 2021 22:04:45 GMT
"I dunno, this whole spanning tree showing which church came from where is only a theory, and it is full of holes. I just think the simpler answer is correct here, that the RPC simply was just created the way it is now and has always existed this way." Haha - 1984 anyone? "Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia" Lol I love this
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Post by cannalily on May 9, 2021 14:59:48 GMT
Lol. Mutations. "Well if RPC came from PRC, then how come there's still PRC?" "If the RPC came from the PRC, and there are differences, then shouldn't there be a record of some kind of in-between, transitional church?" "I dunno, this whole spanning tree showing which church came from where is only a theory, and it is full of holes. I just think the simpler answer is correct here, that the RPC simply was just created the way it is now and has always existed this way." Ah, yes, Natural Election. Heh... I wonder if they get this humor...? It's brilliant.
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